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I would like to turn an acoustic drum kit into a digital one, played through a PC. While the drum kit is being played on it would be good, to hear the drum kit act as a sequencer and here the samples live being played from the PC's speakers.

So I gather that, I can stuff the inside of the drums with towels/shirts/etc, and then add the proper triggers to them, get electronic cymbals (triggering the cymbals seems like a big chore). Now I don't think that I want a complete drum module/brain like the ones on complete stand alone electronic kits (eg Roland V group or Alesis DM etc) which have tons of features I'd like to perform on the PC in software. I just want the trigger-MIDI converter which I can then connect to my PC (preferably via USB?), and then have software to be the sequencer (maybe as a VSTi plugin for Reaper/CuBase etc?).

What are these interfaces refered to as ('trigger to midi interface'? there doesn't seem to many options of brands), and are they cross compatible with different brands? Like a Ddrum triggers with a Roland trigger interface that outputs MIDI?

What software can I use to draw output from this interface?

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If you don't care about the sound the acoustic drums are making while you trigger samples on the PC, then consider using the drum kit from the Rock Band video game instead: How to use Rock Band Drum Set as MIDI Drums.

Buying a used Rock Band drum kit might end up being more cost effective than getting the triggers and a MIDI controller for your acoustic drums. Also, some of the DIY-solutions trigger solutions require you to screw stuff into your drums.

Regardless of the solution you go with, get used to dealing with latency issues. Personally, I can't play while monitoring the triggered samples. Even a very low latency is enough to mess with me.

Alternatively, consider recording the acoustic drums, then trigger samples based on beat detection instead.

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how do you trigger samples based on beat detection? and the software? –  Vass Mar 21 '11 at 16:54
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Try this answer: audio.stackexchange.com/questions/522/… –  Kim Burgaard Mar 21 '11 at 17:07

Posting information about the current status of Triggering, Midi, Positional Sensing, and Drum Modules in 2013.

A commercial drum "brain" module does a few things:

  • Plays the drum sample so you can hear it
  • Converts the input trigger voltage to a MIDI note
  • Detects how hard the drum/cymbal was hit (velocity)
  • Detects where the drum/cymbal was hit. The common vernacular is "positional sensing" but that is not an accurate term, it really is "radius inference".

The major disadvantage with commercial drum modules is that usually you can NOT use your own drum samples! Sure you can tweak parameters to modify the sound but that isn't close to using a complete custom sound. Yup, even on those "high end" Roland modules. :-/ The other limitation is that the built-in drum sounds are sound artificial well, because they are. They don't sound "full" like a real acoustic set. There are comparisons on YouTube such as the "Roland TD-12 sound vs Superior Drummer 2.0" that demonstrate how much "richer" using real drum samples are.

There are a couple of cheaper hardware solutions that go by the name TMI - Trigger Midi Interface - a device that separate the drum sample playback from the conversion of the input trigger voltage to MIDI. The rationale is that you will use software (a program on your PC/Mac) to "mix" the drum samples in real-time.

Sorted from most expensive to least expensive:

  • Rolands TMC-6 www.rolandus.com/products/details/224
  • Alesis Trigger | iO www.alesis.com/triggerio
  • DIY megaDrum www.megadrum.info/
  • DIY microDrum microdrum.altervista.org/blog/

The commercial TMI devices do NOT support positional sensing as the drum companies want to upsell you an expensive drum module for that capability! The DIY megaDrum does support positional sensing but the firmware is sadly proprietary and closed source -- the community is very active though. The microDrum is based entirely on the Ardruino open hardware and is open source however, at this time, it does not support positional sensing; its community is extremely small.

The disadvantage of triggered MIDI is the latency. The total time it takes from when you physically hit the pad to the time the drum sample is produced. Acoustic drums obviously don't have this latency, but the tradeoff is that instead of having access to unlimited sounds you are limited to just a few, along with the lack of good volume control.

Standard MIDI only has a baudrate of 31250 due to it being serial. It is possible to use the higher baud of 11520 but that requires custom firmware/hardware. Some TMI devices will output directly to USB to help minimize the latency.

The popular drum samplers are:

  • Toontrack's "Superior Drummer" or "EZDrummer"
  • XLN Audio's "Addictive Drums"
  • Native Instruments' "Abbey Road"

Other software DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) that might be of interest:

  • Reason
  • Fruity Loops
  • GarageBand
  • Cubase

For more details see wikipedia "Digital_audio_workstation"

Another acoustic solution is that you CAN trigger MIDI from any audio source using software:

  • eTrigger www.etrigger.net/ (which was a rewrite of its predecessor "edrum monitor")
  • AudioFront's "dsp Trigger" www.audiofront.net/dspTrigger.php

One can even pre-trigger to really minimize the latency!

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